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So we're SOL.
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Is Identify on Simon's spell list?

It is level 2 for magic domain anyway

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Level: Bard 1, Sorcerer 1, Wizard 1, Hoardstealer 1, Vigilante 1, Sha'ir 1, Death Master 1, Savant 1 (Arcane), Court Herald 1, Oracle 1, Magic 2,
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(08-16-2020, 03:25 PM)Ghinatorral Ourabestos Wrote: So we're SOL.

You guys lose hope too quickly!  Tongue

@Bet: Why does it matter what level of spell is?  As long as it's on a list the caster has access to, that's all that matters.

I'm using the Pathfinder Alchemist for Simon so it does appear on his list but isn't there a difference between formula and 'spells?'  I will have to check.
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ABANDON HOPE, YE MORTALS, AND DESPAIR!!
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(08-16-2020, 04:59 PM)Selina Parcellus Wrote: ABANDON HOPE, YE MORTALS, AND DESPAIR!!

Tongue 

Believe it or not, I do try to nurture a feeling of trust with the players.  I'm not a DM that just throws PC's to the wolves.  If something seems particularly dangerous, I always make sure there's a way out of their predicament.  Like a two headed crocodile that is not able to attack the same person with both heads or a wyvern flying overhead with lots of rocks around the players so they can hide.  

And apparently, even though it doesn't make much sense to me, Alchemists can use spell trigger items (wands) but not spell completion items (scrolls).  So both Nang and Simon can use the wand IF it is a Wand of Identify.
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(08-16-2020, 06:29 PM)GM Marvel Wrote:
(08-16-2020, 04:59 PM)Selina Parcellus Wrote: ABANDON HOPE, YE MORTALS, AND DESPAIR!!

Tongue 

 ...or a wyvern flying overhead with lots of rocks around the players so they can hide.  

:grumbles something about frustrating characters played by equally frustrating players:
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Example if Olaf had failed that save, I'd have reminded him to use Action Point
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Pathfinder alchemists cannot trigger wands. Artificer from d&d can
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Oh spell trigger vs spell completion
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(08-16-2020, 07:27 PM)DM Vitkyng Wrote: Pathfinder alchemists cannot trigger wands.  Artificer from d&d can


Quote:Although the alchemist doesn’t actually cast spells, he does have a formulae list that determines what extracts he can create. An alchemist can utilize spell-trigger items if the spell appears on his formulae list, but not spell-completion items (unless he uses Use Magic Device to do so).
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