[IC] Black Hills Caves: Exploration Day 2

[DM Vitkyng]

Basically there re three ways to Identify potions  Spellcraft with detect magic/identify, which alcemists cannot do as they don't get detect magic,  craft)alchemy) which you must have the Alchemyt class feature for (alchemist, investigator, and some other archetypes), and good old fashioned sampling which is Perception

The Alchemist states: An alchemist can use Craft (alchemy) to identify potions as if using detect magic. He must hold the potion for 1 round to make such a check.  

This is a little vague in that it says you can use Craft (alchemy) AS IF using detect magic.  Detect magic says you need Spellcraft.  So are they saying you use Craft(alchemy) in place of Spellcraft or does having the Alchemy class feature allow you to ACT like you have detect magic but you still need Spellcraft to identify the potion.

To me it sounds like it's the latter.  You still need Spellcraft as it only mentions that you act like you have Detect Magic.  But I would be happy to hear opinions to the contrary.

They use their craft alchemy skill INSTEAD of Spellcraft..  That is what it says,  it is Spellcraft that requires Identify and Detect Magic, for alchemists do not get Detect magic since they do not get 0th level spells, so do not need Detect magic to do this.
if it was jusrt due tro their Alchemy ability it would just asy that because of their ACHEM(sU) ABILITY THEY DO NOT NEED TO CAST DETECCT MAGIC. iT WOULD NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT USING cRAFT(ALCHEMY)


If it was jusrt due tro their alchemy ability it would just asy that because of their achem(su) ability they do not need to cast detecct magic. It would not say anything about using craft(alchemy)


The direct quote from the alchemist(su) class feature is\

. In addition, an alchemist can use craft (alchemy) to identify potions as if using detect magic. He must hold the potion for 1 round to make such a check.

If it were just a feature of having Alcchemy(Su) they wouldn't confuse you by saying 'use Craft(alcheny)