11-09-2016, 07:42 AM
Lots of things already...
Int 18: you mean the dm or the baddie?
Countersong won't work since it's mental not audible. Language dependent is obscure here.
Pfe itself doesn't allow a new attack roll by itself, leaving "against his nature" the last straw. In my interpretation your nature is not about your personal acquaintance more like inherent subconscious, dogma and stuff. Just how much against the nature of a deep dwarf cleric of Lirr (cg) is to attack a forest gnome? (Adult out kid) I'd say kissing a half-orc would be worse... The villain is certainly aware of what to expect from his own power so he wouldn't make such mistake if he knew the dwarf (and a cleric at that) would shrug off domain because of an ill command.
The bisons; well they don't have to kill those in the way if they can get to the target at the cost of an AOO or three. The warrior was lame to go there but it's just proper for its singlemindedness (is that a word?)
Toot being the greater threat... this guy is not straightforward stupid, ok? Hint: greater threat than whom?
Lugar acting as Cloak: he can't be sure of either but the player knows that the illusion doesn't grant telepathic stuff. Actually he didn't even have to speak the command, what's more the command may be anything else I wrote to Torin privately B-)
Same goes for Toot changing guise.
Portho's bluff I'd an idea I like but similarly, you can't fool a telepathic bond.
Which gnome: I agree that whichever Cloak had in mind.
Hide: I don't have his sheet in front of me but the guy has ridiculous senses, his listen and spot are likely higher than Toot's hide or ability to cast in a hushed voice. That said, I didn't forget that he hid.
Pfe: note that the effect of pfe on DP is described in the latter; the unclear part is what counts as control. I found only one relevant discussion where consensus was that "old" commands remain in effect, even during pfe but honestly I'm not convinced. I agree that the compulsion is in place continuously but is it really control?... So poorly defined...
A different aspect that may shed some light: what happens if the caster gets unconscious? Broken? Suppressed until regains consciousness? Or stays in place? (Considering that the average human caster has to sleep between two days of control I can imagine..)
Int 18: you mean the dm or the baddie?
Countersong won't work since it's mental not audible. Language dependent is obscure here.
Pfe itself doesn't allow a new attack roll by itself, leaving "against his nature" the last straw. In my interpretation your nature is not about your personal acquaintance more like inherent subconscious, dogma and stuff. Just how much against the nature of a deep dwarf cleric of Lirr (cg) is to attack a forest gnome? (Adult out kid) I'd say kissing a half-orc would be worse... The villain is certainly aware of what to expect from his own power so he wouldn't make such mistake if he knew the dwarf (and a cleric at that) would shrug off domain because of an ill command.
The bisons; well they don't have to kill those in the way if they can get to the target at the cost of an AOO or three. The warrior was lame to go there but it's just proper for its singlemindedness (is that a word?)
Toot being the greater threat... this guy is not straightforward stupid, ok? Hint: greater threat than whom?
Lugar acting as Cloak: he can't be sure of either but the player knows that the illusion doesn't grant telepathic stuff. Actually he didn't even have to speak the command, what's more the command may be anything else I wrote to Torin privately B-)
Same goes for Toot changing guise.
Portho's bluff I'd an idea I like but similarly, you can't fool a telepathic bond.
Which gnome: I agree that whichever Cloak had in mind.
Hide: I don't have his sheet in front of me but the guy has ridiculous senses, his listen and spot are likely higher than Toot's hide or ability to cast in a hushed voice. That said, I didn't forget that he hid.
Pfe: note that the effect of pfe on DP is described in the latter; the unclear part is what counts as control. I found only one relevant discussion where consensus was that "old" commands remain in effect, even during pfe but honestly I'm not convinced. I agree that the compulsion is in place continuously but is it really control?... So poorly defined...
A different aspect that may shed some light: what happens if the caster gets unconscious? Broken? Suppressed until regains consciousness? Or stays in place? (Considering that the average human caster has to sleep between two days of control I can imagine..)
