09-26-2016, 08:16 AM
Whoa whoa I have to disagree with this stuff.
First, my question wasn't about spell effects crossing antimagic. It was about the line of effect crossing antimagic. And even summoning spells need line of effect between the caster and the point of origin, so no, you cannot summon something on the far side of a door (or even a window). "You must have a clear line of effect to any target that you cast a spell on or to any space in which you wish to create an effect." You need not be able to see the origin, though, e.g. darkness or fog are no obstacles.
Second, the notion of "any spell targeting a foe or whose area of effect includes a foe" is quite some overshot, definitely not RAI.
With this logic, Bless cast on my companions or a Silent Image would count as an attack.
Detect Magic is a strange example because it can actually used against the foe (by gaining information you might gain combat advantage) in an indirect manner so I'd say it's more along the line of manipulating unattended objects.
That said, Invisibility is ridiculously powerful for a level 2 spell and maybe that's what they tried desperately to address in this sage advice
First, my question wasn't about spell effects crossing antimagic. It was about the line of effect crossing antimagic. And even summoning spells need line of effect between the caster and the point of origin, so no, you cannot summon something on the far side of a door (or even a window). "You must have a clear line of effect to any target that you cast a spell on or to any space in which you wish to create an effect." You need not be able to see the origin, though, e.g. darkness or fog are no obstacles.
Second, the notion of "any spell targeting a foe or whose area of effect includes a foe" is quite some overshot, definitely not RAI.
With this logic, Bless cast on my companions or a Silent Image would count as an attack.
Detect Magic is a strange example because it can actually used against the foe (by gaining information you might gain combat advantage) in an indirect manner so I'd say it's more along the line of manipulating unattended objects.
That said, Invisibility is ridiculously powerful for a level 2 spell and maybe that's what they tried desperately to address in this sage advice
